Gun control

[TLA]

    A Little Gun History Lesson

In 1929, the  Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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In 1911,  Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

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It has now been 12 months since gun owners inAustralia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australiataxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of  Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that whilethe law-abiding citizens turned them in, thecriminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that too!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the  US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson.

With Guns...........We Are "Citizens".
Without Them........We Are "Subjects".

During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade  America because they knew most Americans were ARMED !

Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on  Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attaché to the U. S. 1925-28. Most of our Navy was destroyed at  Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country.

It was reported that when asked why  Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the  U. S. Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the  U. S. & knew that almost all households had guns.

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all your friends!

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This came to me in an email. I thought it was worthwhile enough to put up here. I'm sure it's a ton of other places on the net.

[gooter]

the reason this isn't in the mainstream media is because it's right wing militia-type propaganda.  Some people assume if it's "printed" somewhere, it makes it fact.  I'd suggest doing research on the listed gun bans and actual historical facts.  There would have to be quite the conspiracy for the mainstream media to leave all this evidence unreported.

[TLA]

ROtF, just keep your head in the sand there gooter. Everything posted there is true and if you want you can go look up the facts for yourself. Some of it I lived through and some of it my grandfather and father lived thru. Ain't no one cares what happens in some other country. What you know about genocide in africa? What you know about genocide in serbia? What you know about the killing fields in Thailand?

Lol, don't tell me your one of the idiots who believe the exploration of space is all done on a hollywood lot.

BTW, it was all reported. No one cares because it isn't happening here. Methinks you should have paid a little more attention to history.

They can have my guns, dead fist, etc.

[fishnuts]

I firmly believe if you take the guns from the good guys, the bad guys will win.

The point is...who cares if its fact or fiction. Clearly that is what could happen if we lose the right to bear arms.

[sdstroker]

There would have to be quite the conspiracy for the mainstream media to leave all this evidence unreported.

Well said TLA.  It wouldn't be the first time evidence went unreported....lol

[TLA]

I firmly believe if you take the guns from the good guys, the bad guys will win.

Never made sense to me asking people to give up their guns so there would be less crime. Criminals don't give up their guns and it doesn't stop crime or even slow it down. It just means we all become sheep for the bad guys who didn't and wouldn't give up their guns to begin with.

Just govt double speak to make all us wild Americans give up more of our rights. Australians are probably more like us in this country than any other country in the world and look what happened there. Lol, I have friends there with their guns buried in their back yards. I know a programmer in Bosnia with two ak47s buried. Taking guns away is the first step in total domination of a population.

Lol, y'all found another sore point with me. ROTF, yep, I got more than a few.

[gooter]

History happens to be one of my specialties.  You seem to gloss over the fact that in Iraq, Darfur, Indonesia, and countless other countries that haven't attempted gun control, you have countless tiny factions on the streets killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people as well as armed non-innocents.  I'm not pro gun control, I'm more in favor of keeping the fanatical para military wackos from clouding common sense with mindless propoganda that uses paranoia to create chaos.  They have this woody that the government is one big conspiracy bent on domination. (though their main prickle point is paying taxes) 

I'll keep my shotguns and rifles for hunting, whether we have gun control or not.  I'm not worried they'll be taken, and even less worried about govt. conspiring to "unarm" everyone for world domination, or whatever the wackos want me to believe.

[TLA]

And who is using those guns. Criminals, terrorists and idiots or the good, common people.

Methinks as a history specialty you should know more about what you said wasn't reported. In all of the countries mentioned. Lol, methinks you also forget Richard Nixon, the would be king and Kent State where our own govt killed people because of ideas.

I don't know that I'd call warring tribes in Africa commiting genocide, 'tiny factions'. Considering those 'tiny factions' scared off the United Nations troops.

While I'm not a conspiracy buff I am 100% for keeping the rights we are guaranteed by our constitution. For me it's not a gun control issue, it's a RIGHTS issue. Guns are but one of our guaranteed rights. They took to many rights after 9/11 and they keep trying to take more. That's not conspiracy, that's fact.

[gooter]

agree 100% on the govt. purge of post 9/11 rights.   can't say the same for the opinion on the 2nd amend.  it can and has been argued that having national guard units made up of locals addresses the "right" to arm.  wording in the constitution states a right of the "people" (enmass) to bear arms and a lot of scholars suggest it was intended to protect the right of citizens to arm themselves in militias to defend themselves.  We'll soon get a clearer picture on that wording when the supreme court opins the gun case in DC.  I'm all for rights, but don't share the view the govt. is out to eliminate guns.  I've yet to hear sound arguments for AK-47's and other assault rifles being useful.   I believe legislation can address hunting and small arms rights and eliminate the unecessary assault stuff.  The idea govt. would try to disarm the population doesn't fly considering we have local police, local guard units, and a military made up of all volunteers, volunteers who are "citizens" like you and I.  And don't suggest the old "they start with one law and won't stop till we're all unarmed crap" that was the same rational the waccos had about Vietnam.  We leave and SE asia falls like dominos if we don't stop it here! How'd that work?   The Soldier of Fortune subscribees would disagree, but that's why they need the non mainstream media to push their agenda and propaganda, it lacks enough credibility for credible news to report. 

BTW, did we REALLY land on the moon?  Is that why the govt. gives away so much cheese?  makes sense to me

oh, one more thing.  Kent State.  The volunteer NATIONAL GUARD soldier who gave the order to fire was just an overly agressive citizen, like you, who panicked with a gun in his hand and caused the other NATIONAL GUARD volunteers to panic, also.  Nixon, huh? boy you can dream em up.

[gunner]

I saw a thing on tv about the moon scandal, and I have to say I'm pretty skeptical.  One question the asked was why haven't we or anybody else been back.