we trolled mostly in 10 to 12 foot pulling rapalas, black w/ silver seemed to work as well as crawdad. I think when we found fish they would bite then 10 mins later they were gone. Tried on Saturday anywhere from 8 to 14 but did best in 10 to 12. Never took the time to use live bait. Most would probably agree best bite was after 6pm and before 11am.